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  • Google Base not Automated?????

    I cant believe googlebase and yahoo isnt automated. With prostores this was done for us automatically!! COme on 3d why cant you be automated like them? You charge more per mo. I dont want to pay for an automated feed when I use to get it for free
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  • #2
    According to the "Feature Request" section, this is planned to be implemented.
    http://3dcart.uservoice.com/forums/7...nter?ref=title

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    • #3
      Google has added new requirements as of May 3. I'm sure more are coming.

      I have my fingers crossed that they include the required fields with the product description (advanced) instead of having to use up the custom fields.

      The same goes for Bing. There should be a Bing Category field with the product .
      kem
      AddressNumbers.com
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      • #4
        I also hope soon...

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        • #5
          Originally posted by ritchey View Post
          I also hope soon...
          Second on that, I also came from prostores and doing this manually is giving me a headache. I've spent way too much time on this ><;.. I hope a new update do come out soon...

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          • #6
            I third the motion for an automated feed to Google Merchant. I've tried and tried again, read all the documentation from 3d and Google the latter which is confusing at best. This would help me tremendously is getting my product & store greater visibility.
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            • #7
              You don't want it automated unless 3Dcart provides the required fields. We have a YahooStore. Here's what they wrote:
              **
              Effective May 3, 2011, Google requires unique product identifiers for all products submitted to them in your product feed, excluding products in the apparel category and custom-made goods. If your product feed does not include these identifiers, your products may be dropped from Google's listings. Recognized unique product identifiers for some products include UPC, ISBN, EAN (in Europe), JAN (in Japan), and Manufacturer Part Number (MPN). When the MPN is provided using the "mpn" attribute, it must be accompanied by the manufacturer's brand name in the "brand" attribute. Some types of products require specific identifiers, and other products must include two identifiers.
              ***
              Plus, if you want maximum visibility for your products, you may not want to use the default category path you set up in your store. For example, you may have a section called Address Plaques, Oval. 3DCart assigns the category path for your store as Address Plaques>Oval. But, Google needs it in Category: Home & Garden > Decor > Address Signs
              To assign the correct Google category, you need Google Category field for that product.
              Last edited by kem; 05-13-2011, 12:14 PM.
              kem
              AddressNumbers.com
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              • #8
                Google is not that hard. Read the fields that Google wants. Create your download by customizing it with the field names that go with the information Google needs and upload it. Takes a blazing 5 minutes if you build your download correctly. While an automatic upload would be nice it's not that big of a thing. You can then also use that download for other sites since most of them will accept a Google formatted file.
                David
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by sportscenterisnext View Post
                  I third the motion for an automated feed to Google Merchant. I've tried and tried again, read all the documentation from 3d and Google the latter which is confusing at best. This would help me tremendously is getting my product & store greater visibility.
                  We've been doing feeds to Google since it was Froogle as I'm sure many others here have.

                  You really don't want to have this automated. There's a lot of great help here if you need to get it setup and running. As was mentioned above once it's running - it's running. And we do use the same file for other shopping sites.

                  John
                  g1gallery

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                  • #10
                    Sample Feed

                    Sometimes just looking at a sample feed can help. Ours is very simple but it drives A LOT traffic:

                    id title link price description condition image_link product_type
                    ANR00001x World War 2 Photos WW2 Prints 1st Lt. Walter J. Lind of San Francisco http://www.g1gallery.com/product.asp?itemid=336 10.99 USD World War 2 Photos WW2 Prints 1st Lt. Walter J. Lind of San Francisco new http://www.g1gallery.com/assets/images/anr00001.jpg Arts & Entertainment > Artwork > Prints
                    ANR00002x World War 2 Photos WW2 Prints Pilots of P-47 fighter planes France http://www.g1gallery.com/product.asp?itemid=337 10.99 USD World War 2 Photos WW2 Prints Pilots of P-47 fighter planes France new http://www.g1gallery.com/assets/images/anr00002.jpg Arts & Entertainment > Artwork > Prints
                    ANR00003 Civil War Photos Prints Ship's officers on deck of Passaic class monitor http://www.g1gallery.com/product.asp?itemid=87 10.99 USD Civil War Photos Prints Ship's officers on the deck of a Passaic class monitor on the James River new http://www.g1gallery.com/assets/images/anr00003.jpg Arts & Entertainment > Artwork > Prints
                    ANR00004x P-38 Lightning World War 2 Photos WW2 Prints pilots of the Northwest African Air Forces http://www.g1gallery.com/product.asp?itemid=168 10.99 USD P-38 Lightning World War 2 Photos WW2 Prints pilots of the Northwest African Air Forces new http://www.g1gallery.com/assets/images/anr00004.jpg Arts & Entertainment > Artwork > Prints
                    ANR00005x World War 2 Photos WW2 Prints Artillerymen Hooking Tow Rope to Glider http://www.g1gallery.com/product.asp?itemid=338 10.99 USD World War 2 Photos WW2 Prints Artillerymen Hooking Tow Rope to Glider new http://www.g1gallery.com/assets/images/anr00005.jpg Arts & Entertainment > Artwork > Prints
                    ANR00006 World War 2 Photos WW2 Prints Allied drive smashed through France toward Germany http://www.g1gallery.com/product.asp?itemid=484 10.99 USD World War 2 Photos WW2 Prints Allied drive smashed through France toward Germany new http://www.g1gallery.com/assets/images/anr00006.jpg Arts & Entertainment > Artwork > Prints
                    ANR00007 World War 2 Photos WW2 Prints Drawing above fireplace France http://www.g1gallery.com/product.asp?itemid=485 10.99 USD World War 2 Photos WW2 Prints Drawing above fireplace France new http://www.g1gallery.com/assets/images/anr00007.jpg Arts & Entertainment > Artwork > Prints
                    ANR00008x World War 2 Photos WW2 Prints Improvised Bath Tub France http://www.g1gallery.com/product.asp?itemid=339 10.99 USD World War 2 Photos WW2 Prints Improvised Bath Tub France new http://www.g1gallery.com/assets/images/anr00008.jpg Arts & Entertainment > Artwork > Prints
                    ANR00009 World War 2 Photos WW2 Prints First flag Guam on boat hook mast http://www.g1gallery.com/product.asp?itemid=486 10.99 USD World War 2 Photos WW2 Prints First flag Guam on boat hook mast new http://www.g1gallery.com/assets/images/anr00009.jpg Arts & Entertainment > Artwork > Prints


                    The Arts & Entertainment > Artwork > Prints comes from Google's side. Here is a link to what they call their Taxonomy. Here's the link:

                    http://www.google.com/support/mercha...?answer=160081

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                    • #11
                      The problem with automated feeds, as in ProStores feed, is the fact that they usually only have the basic minimum information and are updated weekly. They may load every day but the information is the same. I watched the item count change only weekly even though there were items being added and removed on a daily basis.

                      I use my file on 5 separate sites and force the creation whenever I update my products so the file is always current.
                      David
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by g1gallery View Post
                        Sometimes just looking at a sample feed can help. Ours is very simple but it drives A LOT traffic:

                        id title link price description condition image_link product_type
                        ANR00001x World War 2 Photos WW2 Prints 1st Lt. Walter J. Lind of San Francisco http://www.g1gallery.com/product.asp?itemid=336 10.99 USD World War 2 Photos WW2 Prints 1st Lt. Walter J. Lind of San Francisco new http://www.g1gallery.com/assets/images/anr00001.jpg Arts & Entertainment > Artwork > Prints
                        ANR00002x World War 2 Photos WW2 Prints Pilots of P-47 fighter planes France http://www.g1gallery.com/product.asp?itemid=337 10.99 USD World War 2 Photos WW2 Prints Pilots of P-47 fighter planes France new http://www.g1gallery.com/assets/images/anr00002.jpg Arts & Entertainment > Artwork > Prints
                        ANR00003 Civil War Photos Prints Ship's officers on deck of Passaic class monitor http://www.g1gallery.com/product.asp?itemid=87 10.99 USD Civil War Photos Prints Ship's officers on the deck of a Passaic class monitor on the James River new http://www.g1gallery.com/assets/images/anr00003.jpg Arts & Entertainment > Artwork > Prints
                        ANR00004x P-38 Lightning World War 2 Photos WW2 Prints pilots of the Northwest African Air Forces http://www.g1gallery.com/product.asp?itemid=168 10.99 USD P-38 Lightning World War 2 Photos WW2 Prints pilots of the Northwest African Air Forces new http://www.g1gallery.com/assets/images/anr00004.jpg Arts & Entertainment > Artwork > Prints
                        ANR00005x World War 2 Photos WW2 Prints Artillerymen Hooking Tow Rope to Glider http://www.g1gallery.com/product.asp?itemid=338 10.99 USD World War 2 Photos WW2 Prints Artillerymen Hooking Tow Rope to Glider new http://www.g1gallery.com/assets/images/anr00005.jpg Arts & Entertainment > Artwork > Prints
                        ANR00006 World War 2 Photos WW2 Prints Allied drive smashed through France toward Germany http://www.g1gallery.com/product.asp?itemid=484 10.99 USD World War 2 Photos WW2 Prints Allied drive smashed through France toward Germany new http://www.g1gallery.com/assets/images/anr00006.jpg Arts & Entertainment > Artwork > Prints
                        ANR00007 World War 2 Photos WW2 Prints Drawing above fireplace France http://www.g1gallery.com/product.asp?itemid=485 10.99 USD World War 2 Photos WW2 Prints Drawing above fireplace France new http://www.g1gallery.com/assets/images/anr00007.jpg Arts & Entertainment > Artwork > Prints
                        ANR00008x World War 2 Photos WW2 Prints Improvised Bath Tub France http://www.g1gallery.com/product.asp?itemid=339 10.99 USD World War 2 Photos WW2 Prints Improvised Bath Tub France new http://www.g1gallery.com/assets/images/anr00008.jpg Arts & Entertainment > Artwork > Prints
                        ANR00009 World War 2 Photos WW2 Prints First flag Guam on boat hook mast http://www.g1gallery.com/product.asp?itemid=486 10.99 USD World War 2 Photos WW2 Prints First flag Guam on boat hook mast new http://www.g1gallery.com/assets/images/anr00009.jpg Arts & Entertainment > Artwork > Prints


                        The Arts & Entertainment > Artwork > Prints comes from Google's side. Here is a link to what they call their Taxonomy. Here's the link:

                        http://www.google.com/support/mercha...?answer=160081
                        Where did you enter the taxonomy per product? We ended up creating a hidden field.
                        kem
                        AddressNumbers.com
                        Address Plaques, Memorials, Home & Garden Decor, Gifts and more.

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                        • #13
                          Taxonomy

                          In the "customize" part of the Google feed under Marketing>Shopping Engines>Google we added as the last entry:

                          Field Alias Prefix

                          constant product_type Arts & Entertainment > Artwork > Prints


                          John
                          g1gallery

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                          • #14
                            All of our product right now falls into this "constant" so we're lucky in that respect. Down the road we may need to look at a field to handle this.

                            On the other hand I don't know how picky Google is about this. One can't really shop by their taxonomy like on Froogle. So a search term can be found no matter where the product is placed. If Google decides to change the front-end and allow browsing by category than that will be a different story.

                            G1 Gallery

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by g1gallery View Post
                              All of our product right now falls into this "constant" so we're lucky in that respect. Down the road we may need to look at a field to handle this.
                              G1 Gallery
                              Yes, I can see how you can do that. Our products require different taxonomy based on the product type, so that's what our problem was. But, we figured out a workaround. Just concerned that we'll run out of "workarounds" as other search engines start requesting category identification. Currently, we can't provide it for Bing for example, because of the limited number of custom fields.
                              kem
                              AddressNumbers.com
                              Address Plaques, Memorials, Home & Garden Decor, Gifts and more.

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