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    Considering that Google is now giving preference (and probably a small amount ranking boost) to pages that use HTTPS, is there a way to enable all pages to use HTTPS?

    http://googlewebmastercentral.blogsp...y-default.html

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    Yes. You can add a script (https://css-tricks.com/snippets/java...direct-to-ssl/) to your frame.html file to force https pages (assuming you have a cert installed). Also, edit the robots file for https pages because by default, the robots file will exclude all https pages.

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    • #3
      Thanks! Will check out that script.

      Would of course be much better if 3dCart provided native https support for all pages.

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      • #4
        Can't you go into store settings and for your site url change it to https there? I always thought you could but maybe I'm not correct on that

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        • #5
          Well there are two places to set the URL for the site. A Store URL and an Secure URL. Never occurred to me to just use HTTPS for the Store URL setting.

          Tried it on our test site and it does seem to work. I will do more testing to be sure there are no unexpected side effects, but I suspect it will work fine.

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          • #6
            If I remember correctly, by doing that you might need to change your pictures to be https also.

            This site might help https://www.whynopadlock.com/ if you try the "s"
            Last edited by Pack Secure; 12-21-2015, 12:23 PM. Reason: To add the link
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            Packaging and Shipping Supply Specialists

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            • #7
              Originally posted by warrisr View Post
              Well there are two places to set the URL for the site. A Store URL and an Secure URL. Never occurred to me to just use HTTPS for the Store URL setting.

              Tried it on our test site and it does seem to work.
              This used to not work in that manner, but 3dcart rolled out changes to make this function for all HTTPS. My store was one of the test stores for this. It works fine.
              - Dean P. e-commerce and small business consulting

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              • #8
                Originally posted by DeanP View Post

                This used to not work in that manner, but 3dcart rolled out changes to make this function for all HTTPS. My store was one of the test stores for this. It works fine.

                Hello DeanP.

                The reason for doing this is SEO? How much effect does it have?

                Also, would it necessitate redirecting existing non-S pages?

                Thanks in advance.

                BP

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                • #9
                  Brtp4 The reason doing this is because an encrypted web is a better web. Do your part! ;) But yes, Google indicated that they would factor this in to their algorithms. They would like to see more websites do this, because an encrypted web is a better web. Read more here: https://googlewebmastercentral.blogs...ng-signal.html
                  - Dean P. e-commerce and small business consulting

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                  • #10
                    DeanP, thanks!!

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                    • #11
                      Looking for a reality check here....everything I read thus far says that secure pages \are better for SEO, have more precise referral data, etc. I was all set to switch over, and decided to check with support for any up to date info on this. Instead, Support said it would HURT search:

                      We do not recommend that you make all of the pages of your store secure because apart from the fact that it's unnecessary (there is no exchange of information in non-secure pages) it will also prevent Google's bots from crawling your website and this can affect adversely your SEO (Search Engine Optimization) rankings. (Google's bots cannot crawl secure pages.)

                      Google themselves: https://googlewebmastercentral.blogs...ng-signal.html

                      We've seen positive results, so we're starting to use HTTPS as a ranking signal. For now it's only a very lightweight signal — affecting fewer than 1% of global queries, and carrying less weight than other signals such as high-quality content — while we give webmasters time to switch to HTTPS. But over time, we may decide to strengthen it, because we’d like to encourage all website owners to switch from HTTP to HTTPS to keep everyone safe on the web.

                      Also, good article: https://moz.com/blog/seo-tips-https-ssl

                      I know other things are perhaps more important, content, etc, but this seems relatively easy. Other than effort, can anyone comment on this?

                      BP
                      Last edited by Brtp4; 03-12-2016, 10:49 AM.

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                      • #12
                        We are thinking about doing this as well (HTTPS Everywhere). After reading the last post from Brtp4, should we do it or not? Also, is it ok to just change the "Store URL" in settings to HTTPS?

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                        • #13
                          I had to go through and fix some minor things that were not secure, but it was really easy. So much that I see no reason not to do it.

                          BP

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                          • #14
                            We made the switch on a site more than 6 months ago and, as expected, there was no benefit at all. Google says all kinds of things and, quite often, they are flat out lying. This is a P.R. move, plain and simple. Common sense should tell people that the web will be a WORSE place if the only sites that rank well are ones that are internet-savvy enough to know how to implement something like this. Sure, you need it to be implemented on pages where people are entering information but on plain old product/category/home/article pages, no rational argument can be made for why those pages need to be encrypted. Waste your time if you want. I guarantee that it will hurt your SEO if you have a decent amount of backlinks to the old non-https pages (even if you re-direct them, you'll lose about 1/3 of the backlink's "juice").

                            Keep in mind that the vast majority of the so-called SEO gurus out there are running blogs and a HUGE amount of what they have to say has no bearing on eCommerce websites. I call them out every time I see a blanket statement being made that may be quite valid for a blog but is just plain wrong for an eCommerce website. Between my sites and the sites owned by the eCommerce training course that I do consulting for, we have nearly 100 small business eCommerce sites to use as a reference for all things SEO.

                            There are so many other things that you could be doing that definitely have a HUGE impact on SEO instead of this. Provide the most complete information, tell people why features are important and just don't list bullet points of those features, create stellar buying guides that help people make a purchasing decision, create category-specific FAQs that not only help people, but that search engines eat up (search engines LOVE questions and answers). In other words, make your website better, more comprehensive and more informative than any of your competitors. And, of course, get some high quality backlinks from sites that are related to yours in some way. The rankings will take care of themselves from there!
                            Last edited by Scott McKirahan; 03-20-2016, 09:12 PM.

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                            • #15
                              DeanP you seem pretty knowledgeable on this (and anyone else with advice would be much appreciated!).

                              I just did the switch to be fully HTTPS this morning after running our site for 7+ years with regular http: on all non-essential pages.

                              Do we need to manually set up 301 redirects from the former http to the new https pages, or does / will Google just do that automatically when they crawl / reindex next time around?

                              Otherwise, we'll be updating things in Webmaster Tools and elsewhere, but wasn't sure what to do with redirects, if anything (FYI, this kind of stuff is not my area of expertise, obviously).

                              Thanks in advance!
                              James

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